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How much will a patent cost me? |
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OK, I pay you
$3500 to draft the application, I pay $400 for a search, $300 for drawings, and
I give the PTO it's $500 filing fee. Is that all? |
| #A3: |
Why do some patent professionals charge
up to $10,000 to draft the same application that
others, like you, charge less than half that? |
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| #B1: |
With all of the different kinds of patents, I get pretty confused. Can you
sort this out?
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| #C1: |
I have heard of
invention companies offering to secure patent protection for just $1500.
What's going on here?
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| #C2: |
I read your page
on PPAs, but I still don't understand. Once I file a PPA, am I
covered? |
| #C3: |
Are
divisional and continuation applications worth the money? |
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| #D1: |
How long will it take to find out if my
PPA or RPA has been approved?
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| #D2: |
This FAQ stuff
is OK for getting quick answers, but can you recommend other sources of
information on how the system works? |
| #D3: |
What if my application is
rejected by the examiner? |
| #D4: |
If I put "Patent pending" on my invention, is
the invention protected from infringement during the time the Patent Office is sitting on
the application? |
| #D5: |
Do I have to have a working model and drawings before applying
for a patent? |
| #D6: |
What's the point in paying for a patent search? Why not just file
the application and let the examiner do the search? Isn't that what
the filing fee is for? |
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| #E1: |
Can you handle my patent work if I
live in Bosie, Idaho? |
| #E2: |
Is a patent attorney better than a patent agent? What's
the difference anyway? |
| #E3: |
Can I pay you for a few hours work to help me draft my own
application? |
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A.
The Costs of Patenting
#A1:
How much will a patent cost me?
Quite a bit. A lot more than a new 120-inch plasma-screen TV, for
instance. More than a 2-week cruise to Barbados.
Seriously, patenting is not for the faint of heart or the financially unstable. Nor is it for the dilettante or day-dreamer. A patent represents a very
significant financial investment, which requires a very serious
to following through. Here is a
whole page that discusses the various costs in some detail.
#A2: OK, I pay you
$3500 to draft the application, I pay $400 for a search, $300 for drawings, and
I give the PTO it's $500 filing fee. Is that all?
In a lot of cases that's pretty much
it for the
examination phase, except for incidentals like Express Mail (about $20). Once your patent is granted you will pay the PTO
issuance and maintenance fees, as shown in
this table of PTO fees.
In some cases, there are additional fees during the examination process that
arise for
various reasons. For instance if you have more than 20 claims, or more than 3
independent claims, you'll pay a bit more. Or your case may require an
assignment of rights -- maybe your designer did some of the
inventing and you want all her rights assigned to you. These extras will
cost you more, but they don't apply for most independent inventors.
Once examination begins, the situation can change. For instance, you might be forced
to appeal a bad decision by an examiner. Or your
case may require divisional or continuation applications, in which case, costs
could (at your option) double or treble. Divisional and continuation applications are
discussed below.
The bottom line is that in terms of forecasting costs, patenting is a vague
and unpredictable process. That's because it's controlled by an incredibly
vague and unpredictable bureaucracy and court system.
#A3: Why do some patent professionals charge
up to $10,000 to draft the same application that
others, like you, charge half of that?
As Charles
Darwin noted, there is an enormous amount of variation between
individuals of a given species. This observation applies to patent
professionals.
Then there was Adam Smith who suggested that good ole' human greed dictates that most people
will charge whatever the market will bear. And in the big cities, where most patent
professionals live and work, the market bears a
lot more than in rural communities like the one I live in.
One of the minor wonders of the Internet is that it permits a solo practitioner working in a rural
environment to have the same access to the Patent Office as do
the large firms in New York or Washington. My office, for instance, is in a small, rural village
about 3 hours from the Patent Office, but my computer is connected to all of
patents and to all of the patent examiners at the Patent Office. It's also
connected to people like you, interested in obtaining a patent. By being
well outside
the Washington beltway, my overhead costs are outrageously reduced. For
instance, I
haven't paid for monthly parking in over 15 years -- the cops here don't even
check the parking meters!
The point is that the mega-firms
have mega-overheads, and somebody has to pay them -- who's that going to
be? Well, the client is the most obvious choice. In
addition, professionals of all types living in large cities demand much larger
salaries than those sane enough to live beyond the nation's beltways, outer-belts, and
by-passes.
My prediction is that it will become increasingly easier to find reasonably
priced patent services as the PTO becomes all electronic, the Internet becomes
more reliable, and more patent professionals catch on to the obvious. If
you are contracting for patent services Online, why should you care how thick
the carpets are?
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B.
The Types of Patents
#B1:
With all of the different kinds of patents, I get pretty confused. Can you
sort this out?
You're not the only one
confused. I think the problem is
this: The powers at the PTO and
Congress figure that patents are for smart people, and, consequently, the laws
and regulations should be made as complex as possible. I say it
over and over -- the PTO is one of the best examples of bureaucracy run amuck,
and that goes for its rules & regulations.
But with respect to your specific question, the confusion over
patent types is a result not so much of the types of patents as in the many
types of applications. It's important to keep patent applications separate from
patents. I address different types of applications in the next section.
As far as
the patents go, first, there are U.S patents and foreign patents. Each country
runs it's own patent-show. If you hold a US patent for your invention but
somebody makes and sells that invention in Mexico and Taiwan, there's not much
you can do unless they import your invention into the US -- or unless you
also hold patents in Mexico and Taiwan. The world is slowly moving toward
a single patent, a single patent office, and a single set of patent laws. Some day there will be a
world patent that will protect your invention everywhere, but that day is far
enough off that you and I will likely never see it. In the mean time, an
inventor must file a patent application in each country he/she wants
protection in.
As far as U.S. patents go, there are only three kinds: utility, design,
and plant.
Utility patents are what most of us think of when we think of patents, or Alexander Graham Bell, or Microsoft. Utility
patents protect tangible things and processes (also called methods). Machinery,
drugs, bottle tops, space shuttles, software, and DVD players are the sorts of
inventions protected by utility patents.
Design patents protect the way tangible things are, well,. . .
designed. The way they look. Toothbrushs, for example, have
been around for a long time and were once protected by utility patents that are
now long expired. But if you have a new shape for a toothbrush handle, you
may be able to get a design patent even though the functional aspects of the
handle are no longer patentable.
Plant patents protect novel strains of plants that have been developed
through human effort.
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C.
The Types of
Patent Applications
#C1: I have heard of
invention companies offering to secure patent protection for just $1500.
What's going on here?
In order to understand the basis of some of the scams that are out there, you
have to understand a little bit about the types of patent
applications.
The application that one files in order to seek a US utility patent is referred
to in the vernacular as a "regular"
utility patent application (RPA), or
sometimes as a "non-provisional utility application." As noted above,
one can also seek design patents and plant patents, in which case you file a
design application and plant application. Mf practice, and this
web site, are dedicated to utility applications, particularly the RPA. Here is a whole page that
describes the RPA Look it over, if you haven't
already.
In 1995 the PTO was sort of forced to introduce a new type of application in
order to get in line with a lot of other countries. This new
application is called the provisional utility patent application (PPA). The
PPA is,
essentially, a cheap way to establish a filing date up to a year before filing
the more expensive RPA. The filing fee for a PPA is less than $100,
including Express Mail postage. A PP might be filed, for instance, to temporarily stop a clock that will cut off
your right to get a patent. [See #C2, below] Here is a page
that explains PPA in more detail. The main point is
that if you file a PPA, you still have to file an RPA within one year or your PPA
is totally wasted. Contrary to popular mis-belief, a PPA doesn't reduce patenting costs, it only
increases them.
The PTO has also started what it calls its "disclosure
document" (DD) program. This is not an application at all, but rather
just a written statement you send to the PTO disclosing the invention. The
PTO will hold the statement in its files for up to 2 years to give you a chance
to file an application. If you file the application within two years and
reference the DD, then it is taken out of the file drawer and put in with your
application. The DD is useful if you have to prove that you beat someone
else to your invention. Inventor's used to put written disclosures in the
mail addressed to themselves. When it came in the mail with a postmark,
the inventor would then keep the envelope sealed in case they had to
produce it in court to prove the date of their priority. This isn't the best tactic,
and I don't think it holds up in court. The DD is supposed to do the same
thing as mailing letters to yourself, a tactic the courts have not sanctioned.
Now, to get back to the question, which was about a company offering to get you patent
protection for $1500. One of two things might be going on. The first,
and most likely, possibility is that the company wants $1500 to fill out a DD and
send it to the PTO with the $10 filing fee. This is not getting you patent
protection. Most people with an invention can produce their own DD and pay
the $10 filing fee, which means a total cost of $10 plus postage.
The second possibility is that the company will draft a PPA for you for $1500.
Paying $1500 for a PPA might be a pretty good deal, unless the PPA is drafted
very poorly. If the professional charging $300/hr. takes the time to understand your
invention completely and to write a comprehensive PPA, $1500 can come up on the
meter pretty quickly. As a result of recent court decisions, patent
professionals are beginning to find out that PPA's don't help a whole lot unless
they contain as clear and as complete a description of the invention as the RPA.
Consequently, a worthwhile PPA may be almost as time-consuming to draft as an RPA.
The bottom line here is that you need to be absolutely sure what the person
offering the services is going to produce for you: A DD? A PPA? A RPA? A design application? A plant application? If they do not
make this point clear, they may be scam artists. No reputable professional
will take your money without being sure you understand what you are paying
for. [See
Dealing with Patent Professionals, below.]
#C2: I read your page
on PPAs, but I still don't understand. Once I file a PPA, am I
covered?
I can give you a definite answer to this one: sort of.
What a lot of people miss, often because
confused or dishonest patent
"professionals" mislead them, is that a PPA is not
an application for a provisional patent, it is a provisional application for a patent.
In other words, a temporary application.
Once you file a PPA, it is "good" for up to a year, provided you file your Regular
Patent Application (RPA), within that year. When I say "good,"
what I mean is that if you file your RPA within a year after filing a PPA, you may be entitled to
backdate the RPA all the way back to the date you filed your PPA. "Big
deal," you are thinking. But his may be important. Keep reading.
Let me give you an example -- a common sort of sequence of events. Let's
say that on July 1, 2004 you made a public disclosure of your invention.
It may have been unintentional, or it may have been something you published
about your invention. Either way,
a clock started ticking on that date -- you had one year to file a patent
application to preserve your patent rights. Let's say you filed a valid PPA
on July 1, 2005, a year to the day after your disclosure. This PPA will stop the
clock -- or rather, it will re-set the clock. Now you have another
year to file an RPA. As long as you file a valid RPA before July 1, 2006, you will be
entitled to the July 1, 2004 filing date. So the PPA can extend the time
you are required to file a final application in order to give you a total two years after you made
your public disclosure.
So what you have done with the PPA is to buy an extra year in which you must file your
RPA. If the clock is bearing down on you and you must file soon or lose
your patent, file the PPA instead
of a RPA because the PPA is not as formal -- and
therefore easier and quicker to draft --.than an RPA This is only one example. There are a
number of scenarios in which it may be helpful, or necessary, to stop the clock
for a year by filing a PPA.
So, back to your question. You are "covered" in the sense that
you can prevent the loss of important patent rights by filing a PPA in some
situations where an RPA would otherwise be required. But if you are
relying on a PPA and you fail to file your RPA on time, you can lose all of your patent rights. In
addition, you will have wasted the money you spent to obtain
the PPA.
There is a very helpful discussion of PPA's on the Patent
Office's web site: www.USPTO.gov .
Q. #C3 : Are
divisional and continuation applications worth the money?
Your question might be better put: Are they necessary? First, let me quickly
review what these
specialty applications are all about.
Once you file your RPA, you establish your filing date. (See previous FAQ.)
Your filing date might be
the actual day the RPA was filed, or it might be up to a year earlier if a PPA was filed first. But the point here is that the filing date
becomes fixed once the PTO accepts your RPA. This has the potential of
being a very important date, and it applies to all of the material disclosed and
claimed in your RPA.
Not too infrequently, the examination process gets messy. Some patent
professionals would say that the examination process always gets
messy. For instance, the examiner may take the position that you really have two
inventions there, and he forces you to choose only one for examination. Or
the examiner may refuse to allow claims that you feel are good claims.
More often than not, you get to the end of the examination process and you don't
have everything you feel you are entitled to. Divisional and continuation
applications allow you to keep fighting, yet retain your original filing date.
In the situation in which the examiner makes you split your RPA into two or more
inventions and forces you to elect which invention to pursue, you have the
option to take the un-elected "invention" and write up a new
application. This is then called a divisional application, because you have
divided the original RPA. Note that the examiner has not rejected any
claims here, he has just said
you can't patent two inventions with one
patent. So you proceed through the process with the invention you
elected. With luck, you'll get a patent on that material. But you still have material
that the examiner cut out from examination. If that material is patentable,
then you must go through the entire application process again,
including paying the PTO's filing fee and a patent professional to draft the
divisional application. But the divisional application still gets your original filing date, and
that may be very important.
Continuation applications are different. They are used when the examiner just
plain flat refuses to approve one or more claims you feel are good claims.
Maybe he rejects all of your claims. As described below, you are allowed,
essentially, only one rejection. After that first rejection you may amend
your claims to meet the examiner's gripes. If your amendment doesn't
satisfy the examiner, your case is pretty much out the window.
You may appeal a full or partial rejection to the Board of Patent Appeals and
Interferences. If you get a bad decision there, you may then appeal to the
U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit. The Federal Circuit must
hear your case. From there it goes on up to the U.S.
Supreme Court, but unless you go duck hunting with Justice Scalia on a regular
basis, your odds of ever getting
your case heard by the Supreme Court are about as good as
Scalia's odds of hitting a duck while sitting at the bench. Of course, these appeals
are a lot of fun for the lawyers, but client rarely looks at them fondly. Even if you win, it costs you the farm.
An alternative to appealing the examiner's rejections is to take your rejected
claims, repackage them in a continuation application, pay another filing fee,
and try again. Maybe you will get a different examiner. And if you
get rejected again, you can file another continuation. And another.
All the time you get to retain the filing date of your first RPA. This is
only fair because you disclosed everything way back in the RPA and you should be
entitled to the date of disclosure.
But the question was whether continuation and divisional applications are worth
the money. They are worth the money if, and only if, the material you
would otherwise lose is patentable and is likely, once patented, to pay
back enough money to bring you back to at least even. In fact, that is the
grounds for most patenting decisions: will the patent pay its way?
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D. The Patenting Process
Q. #D1.: How long will it take to find out if my
PPA or RPA has been approved?
Provisional
Patent Applications are not "approved" at all. There is no
examination. They are, apparently, just shoved into a file drawer until
you file your RPA. If the RPA is filed within a year, then the PPA is
taken out of the file drawer and put into your "file wrapper" (glossary)
As far as a RPA, it depends on the subject matter of your invention. In some cases the examiner will get to your case pretty quickly --
say, 6 - 8 months after the application is filed. But I had one case that
was in the works for over 5 years before a final decision was made. If a case is decided
("made
final") within 18 months,
it's considered reasonably quick.
In 1995 Congress
passed the American Inventors' Protection Act. One of the provisions is a
"guarantee" that the PTO would start examining applications within 14
months of receipt and would finish within 3 years. The lifetime of your
patent is 20 years from the filing date. The guarantee is that if the PTO
drags its feet, you can tack the lost time onto the lifetime of your patent.
#D2 : This FAQ stuff
is OK for getting quick answers, but can you recommend other sources of
information on how the system works?
Sure. Here's a table
of links and resources.
One of the most helpful books I know of is David Pressman's "Patent It
Yourself" published and updated at regular intervals by Nolo Press. (www.nolo.com)
I recommend getting this book even if you hire a professional. It puts you
on a more even footing and it allows you to follow the process.
There are three official sources of information:
- The actual statutes
are found in Title 35 of the U.S. Code. This is called the Patent Act.
- The regulations are found
in Title 37 of the Code of Federal Regulations. This is called The
Rules.
- The PTO publishes a manual
of how to do everything for its examiners. This is called the Manual
of Patent Examination and Procedure (MPEP)
All of these can be found at
the PTO web site. Hard version copies can be purchased there, too. (www.uspto.gov)
Q. #D3 : What if my application is
rejected by the examiner?
There is not much that one can guarantee in this game, but the one thing that comes
closest to certainty is that your application will be rejected. In almost every
case, many, if not all claims, are rejected initially. Part of the reason
for this is that the examiner wants the applicant or his attorney to make
arguments and statements in the record that will limit the invention. This
is called "prosecution history estopple" in the jargon.
Once your claims have been rejected, there is a period
of negotiation with the examiner in which you can amend your application and,
hopefully, the examiner will be persuaded to
change his/her mind. It is during this period that a record of your case
can come back to hit you between the eyes. Statements you make to persuade
the examiner to grant claims can later be used against your patent in court,
even if the claims never should have been rejected to begin with.
If the examiner is insistent that you do not have a patentable
invention, you can re-file your application and try again, or appeal to the Board
of Patent Appeals and Interferences. If you appeal and lose, you can take
your case to the federal courts. I have experience in such appeals, and
they are no fun. A good patent professional will do all he/she can to avoid appeals by screening applications initially and by writing them as soundly
as possible.
Q. #D4 : If I put "Patent pending" on my invention, is
the invention protected from infringement during the time the Patent Office is sitting on
the application?
It's a good question. After all, your application could get tied up in
the PTO for years.
The answer used to be essentially, "no, 'patent pending' doesn't protect
you during prosecution." "Patent
pending" only gave notice to the world that a patent application has been filed
and, consequently, a patent may be coming down the pike. But until a patent was actually granted, anyone could make, use, sell your
invention while the application was pending. The day the patent is granted
you can go after the cads for any infringements that occur after that date.
Now the inventor has an option of having
his application
published 18 months after it is filed. If a crook then makes, sells, or
uses the invention described in the published application, once a patent is
issued, the inventor can sue that crook for patent infringement from the date
of the publication.
In other words, "patent pending" may help you bite back if
your patent is infringed during prosecution -- if
you have your application published.
Q. #D5. Do I have to
have a working model and drawings before applying for a patent?
No and yes, in that
order.
In the patent jargon one speaks of "reducing one's invention to practice." This
means having the invention in a functional form. You are required to
have reduced your invention to practice at the time you file your
application. However -- and this is the tricky part -- it is not necessary
to have the invention in a physically functional form. In one of Tom
Edison's famous court cases, the judge ruled that as long as the patent
application sets forth how to make and use the invention in clear language, then
that is enough. Therefore, filing of a valid patent application that
clearly sets out how to make and use your invention is considered a
"constructive reduction to practice." In law,
"constructive" means, roughly, "a very convincing
fantasy." Generally speaking, the PTO won't even let you send them a
working model. However, you may, and should, take one with you to
demonstrate to the examiner if you have a face-to-face interview.
But here is the "yes" part of the answer: With respect to drawings,
you are required by law to present drawings of your invention at the time you file your
application. It is generally good practice to present the final, formal
drawings that will be published as your patent, but this is not legally
required. You may file hand-drawn figures, so long as they are clear
enough that the examiner doesn't have to strain to make out your meaning.
If your application is allowed, you then submit the formal, final
drawings.
Because the text of the application is absolutely peppered with reference
numbers from the drawings, it can be a nightmare if formal -- or near formal --
drawings are not submitted with the application. If even one reference
number changes and it is not caught, your patent could be later found to be
invalid.
#D6. What's the
point in paying for a patent search? Why not just file the application and
let the examiner do the search? Isn't that what the filing fee is for?
You are right in the
sense that you are not required by law to do a patent search. This will
probably change in the not too distant future as the PTO tries to find ways to
cut back its services as it raises its fees. But for now, the patent
search is optional. As of December 8, 2004, the new fee structure includes
a "search fee" that is paid to the PTO for them to do the
search. Actually, they outsource this task.
Even if you pay for a search before you file your application, there is no guarantee that the
searcher will find every patent that is harmful to your case. Sometimes
the PTO relies on fields that are far removed from the subject matter and come
up with prior art no one in their right mind would ever dream of.
But a good search before drafting your application helps in at least two ways. The most obvious is that if
a patent is found that knocks you out, then the search will save you thousands
of dollars for a patent application that will never be allowed. I have
found that in about half of the people who come to me, I can find a patent that
would likely defeat their application. If you are aware of such a patent,
then you are required by law to disclose it to the examiner. You and your
agent/attorney cannot just sit mum and hope the examiner misses it.
The second reason is that if the person drafting the application knows that
there are patents out there that are close to your invention, then he or she may
be able to write the application so that it avoids those patents. This is
called "writing around" the prior art.
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E.
Dealing with Patent Attorneys/Agents
Q. #E1 : Can you handle my patent work if I
live in, say, Bosie, Idaho?
No problem. Registration to practice before the U.S. Patent &
Trademark Office is done on a nationwide basis. Regardless of what wonderful place you
live in, I am permitted to represent you before the US Patent &
Trademark Office. I can handle your patent work even if you live in wild
and wonderful New
Guinea. But I don't make house-calls.
Q. #E2: Is a patent attorney better than a patent agent? What's
the difference anyway?
In the U.S. system a patent attorney is a patent agent who holds a law license in one
or more states. Patent attorneys and patent agents must pass the exact
same examination given by the Patent Office. The most obvious difference is
that the attorney can represent you in court,
but the agent can only represent you before the Patent Office, including its
appeal board.
All agents and attorneys registered with the PTO must have a technical
background -- usually at least a bachelors in engineering, biology, computers,
etc.
Patent attorneys must also have legal training and be registered to practice law
in at least one state or D.C. An agent may be a college graduate in
biology, computer science or engineering,
for instance, with precious little training in law, which means most patent agents don't know how the law and
courts work as well as most patent attorneys do. However, many patent agents were
once patent examiners and they know how the Patent Office works better than a lot of
attorneys do.
So the bottom line is that attorneys, being trained in law, are
better equipped to understand the complex legal ramifications of your
application. They are more focused keeping you out of court in the long
term by drafting an air-tight patent. Agents are more
focused on getting an application approved by the examiner, and may be less
concerned about the long-term legal issues. What a lot of inventors don't
understand is that just because a patent is granted, that doesn't mean it will stand up in court.
I don't have any data, but my guess would be that agents get a higher percentage
of applications approved, but the patents written by lawyers do better in
court. Having said all that, I would
recommend an excellent agent over a mediocre attorney any day. But I would
choose an excellent attorney over an excellent agent, other things (including
cost) being equal. Of course, I am an attorney, and so this opinion is not entirely unbiased.
Q. #E3 : Can I pay you for a few hours work to help me draft my own
application?
There was a time when you could, but not now. And it's not that
I'm getting greedy. I have shifted
position on this primarily because of the complexity of court decisions, many of
the most confusing of which
have been issued in the last 5 years. Years ago I believed that most people could handle their own patent applications, but now I consider
the job too difficult for those not trained in the art. The shifting
complexities are more than most amateurs can
keep up with. While an amateur might have a pretty good chance of
obtaining a patent, it is a
whole lot harder to draft a patent that will
stand up in a courtroom fight, and that's what patents are for. At least
that's what the patents I draft are for. If you would not be comfortable
drafting a deed, mortgage documents, and doing all the legal work involved in
buying a house, you would be struggling to prosecute a patent on your own.
It's a lot harder.
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